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Why does every sub EXCEPT r/Conservative…well, if it’s all except one, maybe it’s not everyone else!

Why does every sub EXCEPT r/Conservative…well, if it’s all except one, maybe it’s not everyone else!

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MrTomDawson

Someone doesn't go to many subs.


EliSka93

There's so many right wing subs... Completely coincidentally, it's usually the ones with rampant racism, homophobia and, especially prevalent, transphobia. Edit: I forgot misogyny!


MrTomDawson

>There's so many right wing subs... Basically anything about giving an "honest" or "unpopular" opinion, or a "rant" or getting things "off your chest" turns into an excuse to say socially unacceptable things while being applauded for it.


Mallardy

Or nearly any sub that is based on another sub, but where they added "actual" to the name (which almost always happens because the original sub was purportedly too compromised by "SJWs" who didn't want them posting openly bigoted shit).


BigbySamMelody

You forgot violent retribution especially if it comes from a cop like /r/justiceserved


EliSka93

Right. Or r/pussypassdenied which combines violence quite beautifully with misogyny.


princezznemeziz

I could've lived my whole life not knowing that hellhole existed. Wow.


EliSka93

Sorry.


princezznemeziz

Don't be. I knew I shouldn't look but I couldn't seem to help myself.


DXKIII

remember when they just straight up became a nazi sub?


EliSka93

I haven't checked in with them in a few years, so I had no idea they had. I also believe that in a heartbeat and am entirely unsurprised.


DXKIII

yeah it was wild. it wasn't just dog whistles. it was swastikas everywhere and having hitler speeches stickied.


ForLackOf92

I guess their trying to point out the doubled standards between men and women, but they fall flat on their face with the god awful misogyny.


EliSka93

Technically I'm pro men's rights. There are social injustices towards men (bias in custody law, ridicule of sexual and domestic abuse towards men etc) but I cannot in good conscience stand next to the people who call themselves "Men's rights activists"... They're kinda like blowing up a nuclear power plant to support solar energy. Not really helping and it leaves behind a toxic wasteland.


ForLackOf92

This is why i call myself a humanist, i'm for the rights of everyone, men shouldn't be victim blamed just as much as women shouldn't, women should be paid the same for doing the same work as a man (baring maybe legitimately one party having more or less experience at the job.) I'll go to my fall back, why can't we just all get along?


EliSka93

[>can't we just all get along](https://i.imgur.com/t6v0QFn_d.webp?maxwidth=520&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)


ForLackOf92

[It's funny because it's true.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY)


twistsiren

Of course, this was on a video of a white family of two adult men and women, with their children watching, mocking a teenager that works at In and Out for not letting them in without a mask on.


Wiildman8

Remember that their idea of “censorship” is people talking about minorities in their presence and not allowing them to spew hate in response. It’s the same logic as “having to see people practice other religions is oppressing my religious freedom”.


DerisiveGibe

If they don't like they are free to leave


SageWindu

>The site turned sour 2 years ago. And what, pray tell, happened 2 years ago?


Felinomancy

t_d being banned would be my guess.


TheAmazingThanos

That was banned less than two years ago


ginganinja6969

Uhh, can I ask what did happen 2 years ago? I stopped going on here a lot a while ago and came back to find a lot of comments sections were pleasantly improved on things like transphobia/sexism on several subs.


SageWindu

I, uh... I'm actually wondering that myself, hence the question. *I'm genuinely curious as to what happened 2 years ago that makes them say that.*


TheEricle

I presume that Reddit instituted a new site policy, in which mods were encouraged to do their jobs, but I can't be sure. I wasn't on Reddit at the time


BigbySamMelody

T_D was banned so a lot of the fascists left to go to Voat.


dub273

"Suddenly I'm not allowed to use language that is racist, homophobic, misogynist, inciteful, or jingoistic! So unfair!"


Signa_ge

Meanwhile . . . Post appears spewing racist theories, talking about false elections and how the vaccine doesn’t work. Subsequently gets responses not to their liking . . . Throws hands in the air “Lefties”


Denizen_Kane

Having freedom of speech means the government won't step in to silence you when you speak, it doesn't mean that you are entitled to a podium, an audience, equal time or a positive reception for speaking your 'unpopular truths', nor are you protected from criticism or repercussions by the doctrine of freedom of speech. Likewise, 'unbiased' doesn't mean being nice to both sides of the argument, it means being honest about both sides. That needs to be pinned to r/conservative, along with having a bot reply it to every post that contains the words 'censorship', 'freedom of speech' or 'free speech' in that sub.


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SquelchingNoises

I've said it before but America's Democrats would be considered a right wing political party in many first world countries. The conservative party would be considered a fringe far right group. A bit of perspective is needed when you consider reddit is a global website.


Sasquatch1729

It's the old joke: What do Americans call a Canadian conservative? A Democrat


TheAmazingThanos

>I've said it before but America's Democrats would be considered a right wing political party in many first world countries. This really isn't true. They're center/left-leaning.


IICVX

What's another political party in a first world country that's considered center/left and has the same views as the Democrats? Keep in mind that the Democrats views are: * People should pay a lot of money for health care, but maybe a bit less than they do now * We should definitely fund our military with a lot of money * Unions are not great but we can live with them * People should definitely be able to own lots of guns, but we should probably check that they're not going to buy a gun and immediately kill someone with it.


rammo123

Tbf to the Dems, they "have" to be pretty right-wing because they GOP has moved the American Overton window so far to the right. I'm sure they *want* to be more left wing than they're currently forced to be. When half the country thinks basic human rights are "communism" you're gonna be pretty moderate in your thinking. If the GOP suddenly ceased to exist, and they weren't forced to co-operate with and appease far right extremists, they'd start to look a lot more like a normal centre-left party.


IICVX

Are you sure about that? Because there's not a lot of space between the most right-wing Democrats and the Republican party. Honestly if the Republicans all disappeared tomorrow, the Democrats would split into a center-left party and a right wing party.


TheAmazingThanos

Well three out of those four are lies and distortions so I'm bit going to engage with that.


IICVX

Which ones? > * People should pay a lot of money for health care, but maybe a bit less than they do now   > Specifically, Democrats will: > * Stop outrageous prescription drug price increases > * Allow Medicare Part D to negotiate drug prices > * Require drug manufacturers to publicly release hard data and information justifying any significant price increase [From Nancy Pelosi's official Speaker.gov page](https://www.speaker.gov/issues/health-care)   > * We should definitely fund our military with a lot of money   > Democrats have always insisted on parity in increases between defense and non-defense, and we are pleased that our increase in non-defense budget authority exceeds the defense number by $10 billion over the next two years. [Joint statement by Schumer and Pelosi, 2019](https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/72219-2)   > * Unions are not great but we can live with them   > The bill passed the Democratic-controlled House when it was introduced last year, but it was never taken up by the then-GOP majority Senate. This time, Democrats narrowly control the Senate, but not by enough votes to overcome a filibuster, which means the measure is likely dead once again. [NPR article about the PRO act, which is cool and all but won't pass because Democrats in the Senate won't let it](https://www.npr.org/2021/03/09/975259434/house-democrats-pass-bill-that-would-protect-worker-organizing-efforts)   > * People should definitely be able to own lots of guns, but we should probably check that they're not going to buy a gun and immediately kill someone with it.   > Democrats are committed to saving lives and working to restore confidence in the safety of our communities with deliberate and concrete steps to prevent gun violence. To honor our responsibility to the American people, House Democrats have: > * Introduced bipartisan legislation to expand background checks nationwide to keep guns out of the hands of those at-risk of hurting themselves and others. > * Passed legislation to grow our investment in a national background check infrastructure. > * Taken steps to prevent new gun laws from being made in the shadows of secretive legislative maneuvers. > * Established a Gun Violence Prevention Task Force to lead the effort to devise, develop, and debate legislation to reduce and halt gun violence. [From Nancy Pelosi's official Speaker.gov page](https://www.speaker.gov/issues/gun-violence-prevention)


TheAmazingThanos

>Which ones? >People should pay a lot of money for health care, but maybe a bit less than they do now >  >Specifically, Democrats will: >Stop outrageous prescription drug price increases Allow Medicare Part D to negotiate drug prices Require drug manufacturers to publicly release hard data and information justifying any significant price increase You debunked your own argument. >We should definitely fund our military with a lot of money This one is true. >The bill passed the Democratic-controlled House when it was introduced last year, but it was never taken up by the then-GOP majority Senate. This time, Democrats narrowly control the Senate, but not by enough votes to overcome a filibuster, which means the measure is likely dead once again. Yeah no shit the filibuster exists. Dems have been pro union for a long time. >Democrats are committed to saving lives and working to restore confidence in the safety of our communities with deliberate and concrete steps to prevent gun violence. To honor our responsibility to the American people, House Democrats have: >Introduced bipartisan legislation to expand background checks nationwide to keep guns out of the hands of those at-risk of hurting themselves and others. Passed legislation to grow our investment in a national background check infrastructure. Taken steps to prevent new gun laws from being made in the shadows of secretive legislative maneuvers. Established a Gun Violence Prevention Task Force to lead the effort to devise, develop, and debate legislation to reduce and halt gun violence. >From Nancy Pelosi's official Speaker.gov page You're forgetting that they want an assault weapons ban.


IICVX

> You debunked your own argument. Honestly I'm not seeing it - I said that Democrats still think that people should pay a lot of money for health care, and then quoted the lead Democrat in the House bragging about how they're working to stop "outrageous" price _increases_. Not lower costs, not make it free, just _lower the rate at which prices increase_. > Yeah no shit the filibuster exists. Dems have been pro union for a long time. And the filibuster doesn't have to exist - if the Democrats actually cared about unions (or really any of their agenda), they could get rid of it instead of just making noises. They haven't, so I think my characterization is accurate. Seriously, when was the last time the Democrats passed actually meaningful pro-union legislation? It's not like the unions are going to go support someone else. > You're forgetting that they want an assault weapons ban. Even with an assault weapons ban, you can still own all the guns you want. Like right now, you can own all the pistols and hunting rifles you want, and an assault weapons ban won't change that. The only people who actually care about assault weapon bans are the military cosplayers who are upset about getting their props taken away.


TheAmazingThanos

>Honestly I'm not seeing it - I said that Democrats still think that people should pay a lot of money for health care, and then quoted the lead Democrat in the House bragging about how they're working to stop "outrageous" price increases. Not lower costs, not make it free, just lower the rate at which prices increase. The things listed are the cause of a large portion of the high prices, so eliminating those things would make people not have to pay a lot of money >And the filibuster doesn't have to exist - if the Democrats actually cared about unions (or really any of their agenda), they could get rid of it instead of just making noises. They haven't, so I think my characterization is accurate. I agree. Manchin and Sinema need to stop acting like they're on mcconnel's payroll. But their platform is pro union. >Seriously, when was the last time the Democrats passed actually meaningful pro-union legislation? It's not like the unions are going to go support someone else. When's the last time anyone passed anything of substance? The government is broken. >Even with an assault weapons ban, you can still own all the guns you want. Like right now, you can own all the pistols and hunting rifles you want, and an assault weapons ban won't change that. The only people who actually care about assault weapon bans are the military cosplayers who are upset about getting their props taken away Except "assault weapon" is a term so vague and nebulous that it could cover all semi-automatic weapons.


IICVX

> The things listed are the cause of a large portion of the high prices, so eliminating those things would make people not have to pay a lot of money That logic only works if you consider the current cost of health care to not be "a lot of money". A lot that increases year over year is still a lot. > Except "assault weapon" is a term so vague and nebulous that it could cover all semi-automatic weapons. Sorry, I was under the impression that bolt action rifles were still guns. Is that incorrect? Did we fight in the Great War with particularly accurate slingshots or something? Honestly, there's no legitimate civilian use for even semi-automatic weapons outside of a shooting range. I seriously doubt the Democrats would even _try_ to ban semi-automatic weaponry, but I'd love it if they had the balls to go for it. That being said what they mean by "assault weapons" is almost certainly then same military fetish gear as they meant in the 1994 AWB, so your precious lead spewers are safe.


TheAmazingThanos

>That logic only works if you consider the current cost of health care to not be "a lot of money". A lot that increases year over year is still a lot. Uh, no it doesn't. Those things are the cause of current high prices and rising prices. >Sorry, I was under the impression that bolt action rifles were still guns. Is that incorrect? Did we fight in the Great War with particularly accurate slingshots or something? Bolt action is not semi-automatic. It's bolt action. >I seriously doubt the Democrats would even try to ban semi-automatic weaponry, but I'd love it if they had the balls to go for it. Because you're a shortsighted moron. The GOP just tried to overthrow an election, and they're becoming more radical and more brazen by the day. And your response is "lEt'S gIvE uP gUnS!!!!!!!!!" Also it's bold of you to assume what kind of guns I have.


ziggybobiggy

I triggered my coworker so hard when he called me a liberal and I said you are a liberal too. He’s like nuh uh!! I said everyone in America is liberal. Especially compared to “socialist” Europe where they still have kings


readwaytoooften

America is conservative, not liberal by world standards. Europe may have kings, but they don't actually rule any more. And if he's insulted by being called a liberal he should take a better look at history. All progress for humanity has come from liberals.


ziggybobiggy

I agree conservatives fear progress, and my coworker will never hear logic. Being liberal includes being open minded. But I am curious if you could elaborate on how America is conservative when compared to the rest of the world


yougottabekiddingm

because they are obsessed with unregulated capitalism, not paying taxes, and destroying the social safety nets that are supposed to keep people from becoming homeless, dying for lack of affordable healthcare, or starving themselves and their children.


Raccoon_Full_of_Cum

Translation: "I demand a 'court of public opinion' version of the Electoral College to give my side disproportionate cultural influence, because without that, we're an unpopular minority with unpopular ideas."


RosharWilco

“It’s only free market economics when it exclusively caters to me. It’s communist censorship when it doesn’t because obviously everyone in the world has to think like me because I am correct all the time and the only possible way to be different from me is a secret communist ploy to destroy me”


Bigray23

My new response to cries of censorship and cancel culture: “No , you’re a bad person and no one likes you.”


KamaIsLife

In 2014, after a sound defeating by Obama, the right conducted an "autopsy" of why they lost that included, among other things, outreach to minorities and suggestions on addressing racism within their party. They decided to completely ignore that and doubled down by supporting Trump and ramping up voter suppression and gerrymandering. They are a relic who is unwilling to change their messaging which is why they are so unpopular and require rigging the system to win.


ketchupnsketti

Reality has a liberal bias.


leon_pretty_loathed

Problem is they do go out to increase their presence by infiltrating and taking over other subs.


zorrodemo

You find what you are looking for.


SpiderDeUZ

It's always everyone else that is the problem for them. They all complaints and no action.


ziggybobiggy

Add to that the fact that half the people this guy thinks are agreeing with him in his echo chamber are actually bots and/or trolls


Fahrenheit231

Most conservative subs don't allow comments without flair. What they want is a bubble.


ItsATerribleLife

"This site is a librul hellhole where conservatives are persecuted!" - Man angry over not being able to scream slurs and hatred without *gasp* repercussions.


PsychedelicPioneer

The absence of popular support by the masses is not cEnSoRsHiP. Maybe the majority of people don’t like shitty bigoted opinions? Let that sink in.


NinjaBryden

"Why does everyone else disagree with me? Must be propaganda. Can't be anything else."


Existing_Group4145

u/jefedubois


zazasLTU

Best example of Copium user. Everyone is left leaning because of censorship and not because right/conservative ideas are shit.


abruptdismissal

"If everyone else seems like an asshole, maybe you are the asshole"


SwampTerror

The world is left leaning in general.